Undiscovered

Compiling the new version now. Should be up in 10 mins.

~Cheers
~Boeko

http://www.subtlerecordings.com
http://www.myspace.com/boeko

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Right, well where can I start? First off, well done (again), brother. This track has a lushness to it that immediately captured my ears and made my mind wander off into itself - if you follow what I mean. A kind off "thinking man's track", if you will. Although, listening to your other stuff, this does not come as a surprise at all.
I love the soft synth stabs, and the way they gradually build throughout the track. I also really like the sweeping, almost haunting, background synth (apologies for the repetitive description ie: "synth", but not having a great deal of production experience at the moment, my sound bank vocabulary is a bit limited ). I also particularly like the highs, and the way you build them up over the course of the track. I'm a bit of a highs person myself, so I enjoy hearing a bit of variation - for example when you bring in the quicker, "stuttered" (?) high hat @ the 2:05 mark - nice touch.

Now, the constructive critique bit. I think a longer break-down would really add to this track. Perhaps using the sweeping background sound(s), and some other soft "eerie" sounds. Incorporating / building in the change-of-key synth stab (the one that comes in at around 3:40) could work well. Something that would take the listener's journey a bit deeper into the mental forest, before gently steering them back on course for the remainder of the track ("Run along now, wee one. There's nowt down there for kiddies!")

I might also be inclined to play with the bass a little. I like the overall sound (soft, flowing), but I might be inclined to build a little bit of a deep rumble, or growl - not a change in key or anything, but something to thicken it up a bit - y'know, just to draw out the low end a bit and put a bit more emphasis on it (after the suggested break-down, perhaps?).

As I said before, I'm a bit of a highs fan, and the only suggestion I'd make is to perhaps try to step up the complexity (read: subtle variation) of the high hat pattern(s) a bit.

My production experience is a bit limited, so I hope I've conveyed my thoughts effectively (remembering, of course, that these are just my thoughts ). The fact of the matter is that this track had me to actually really listening to all it's components (regardless of the feedback request) - the hallmark of a damn fine producer, in my mind.

Well, that's my two cents on the matter, Boeko. I really like your style, and as a footnote, I'm really liking the look / sound of Reason 4. I was tossing up between Abelton and Reason (although, to be honest, I've been leaning in the Reason direction since I first played with the demo....), and I think this might just have sealed the deal. Kudos.

McB.

Thanks for the crit. I love getting detailed criticism like this. Gives me a lot to work off of. Thanks a tonne m8s

perhaps its cuz Im hung over, but Im having trouble revamping this track,,,,, so Im back to where I started again, having 90% of the track the way I want it, and 10% oblivious. lol
If I wasnt so selfish about my music, I would probably have teamed up with someone by now, to put my tracks over the top. hehe

I tried adding in another bassline -- something a little more umph'y,, more fatness, if ya dig. I just havent found the right sound, and Im a little short on patience this afternoon (and CPU usage). lol

With the breakdown (McB), I was initially going to extend it for another16 measures with exactly what you were talking about, some real eerie sounding shize, with some "washing" synth panning in and out, and up and down the frequency/rez channels, --- like just drop everything out except for the bassline, and high synth (when you 'expect the song to tear into the last 64 measures), shove in that washy sound, then bring everything down with an envelope controlled filter, or something, then bounce into the last half of the track,,, but I spent 4 hours trying to find something that I could dig, and didnt find it, so I had to temporarily curb that idea.

I def agree though that it is lacking some serious fatness on the bass side, so I think Im gonna start there, and keep diggin til I find something that works for me.

As for the low synth thats already in there, and relating it to some more variation -- I've tried a shitload of variations in the past couple hours on it, and nothing really kicks it out above and beyond what its already at (so far). The one thing that I will do to that bassline, is fill in that gap in the synth about 3/4 the way through the measure, with an off note, on key tone (once again, if ya dig.. hehe).

Man, my head hurts.
Word to the wise, watch out for Gin and Tonic. ... Shit sneaks up on ya real quick, and kicks you in the back of the head repeatedly the next day.

Cheers m8s, and thanks again.

~Boeko

http://www.subtlerecordings.com
http://www.myspace.com/boeko

If you dig what I'm doin'

Soundin good dude!

bass is still too repetitive for my likeing (although i really like the rythms after the break )

really like this 1